I agree totally on the fact that we call ourselves an industrialized nation when in fact that there are underlying acts of barbarianism in many, if not all, actions taken on a day to day basis.
As far as the hurricane-stricken south, if I was a member of the armed forces that was not in Iraq and was sent there to SAVE people...I'll be damned if I'm going to be shot at. I wouldn't tolerate it one bit. I'm not saying that I would shoot them in face or blast their lungs out of their back, but I bet you that I wouldn't extend my hand to help them onto the chopper.
I agree with the fact that there is no reason whatsoever to loot for material items, but let them do it. What good is it? The action that angers me is that rescue choppers were taking fire. You want to loot, pillage, and kill? Do it. Just keep it amongst yourselves. Don't put innocent children, your injured neighbors, etc. in danger while doing so or else you deserve to be shot too.
As far as the race issue...it's BS. Cry me a river. It was obvious that someone couldn't have been creative when thinking of a reason for the government taking so long. Maybe the government took so long because the majority of National Guardsmen are overseas fighting a war supporting a country that now has a bunch of people floating face down in sewage-filled disease-infested seawater. Just think...isn't it a possbility that there's such a large percentage of National Guardsmen overseas and the remaining population is so spread thin that it's hard to round them up? Whatever. This is coming from a white man, though.
I think I rambled enough...
*PS...moving to bamboo fighting pit since it's a "heated" (possibly) discussion*
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something has got to be said about this
true, this whole race card thing is really annoying. it goes on WAY too much, granted there are times when it actually applies but those instances are so few and far between....munster wrote:I agree totally on the fact that we call ourselves an industrialized nation when in fact that there are underlying acts of barbarianism in many, if not all, actions taken on a day to day basis.
As far as the hurricane-stricken south, if I was a member of the armed forces that was not in Iraq and was sent there to SAVE people...I'll be damned if I'm going to be shot at. I wouldn't tolerate it one bit. I'm not saying that I would shoot them in face or blast their lungs out of their back, but I bet you that I wouldn't extend my hand to help them onto the chopper.
I agree with the fact that there is no reason whatsoever to loot for material items, but let them do it. What good is it? The action that angers me is that rescue choppers were taking fire. You want to loot, pillage, and kill? Do it. Just keep it amongst yourselves. Don't put innocent children, your injured neighbors, etc. in danger while doing so or else you deserve to be shot too.
As far as the race issue...it's BS. Cry me a river. It was obvious that someone couldn't have been creative when thinking of a reason for the government taking so long. Maybe the government took so long because the majority of National Guardsmen are overseas fighting a war supporting a country that now has a bunch of people floating face down in sewage-filled disease-infested seawater. Just think...isn't it a possbility that there's such a large percentage of National Guardsmen overseas and the remaining population is so spread thin that it's hard to round them up? Whatever. This is coming from a white man, though.
I think I rambled enough...
*PS...moving to bamboo fighting pit since it's a "heated" (possibly) discussion*
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The United states government neglected the welfare of its own citizens by choosing to improperly adress the threat of one of the largest huricanes this country has seen in years.
It is completly obvious that this was the case and I do not understand how you can belive that this nation did the best it could have done.
Over 200 transportation buses were destroied by the collapse of a levy that was a meer 1/4th a mile away.
They obviously thought that ease of use was completly more important then the wellfair of it's people... or they decided that people could get out on their own.
How do you get out of a place without transportation, private or public.
You clearly are displaying no understanding of the human mind as well to say that this situation is not of the severity to effect the mental state of the average person... especially when the population is by in large poor and uneducation. Once again, Statisticly based on the region and the sheer likely hood that that economic class was in fact was in large amount minorities...
You can sit here and disagree with me, but if your going to piss moan and bitch about something that is probobly having little effect on you... I am uninterested in your stance on something you have no factual evidence of.
You clearly do not understand that people in the area have nothing, no food, no shelter, no posession, no transportation, missing family and dead family, Constantly crammed into buildings... with no running water. Listen to NPR, listen to the news, turn off fox for a minute.
In the new orleans stadium there is no runnning water, they are over the legal capacity... there is urine, feces, and human waste pooling on the floor, there is no lights or electricty. There is no source of information.
And you honestly belive that You could just shut up and deal with it? I do not know you but I assume that people who had nothing and lost what little they did could deal with this better than a (preportionatly) privileged individual who can afford a car at the age you are (I assume young based on your attitude) I hate to sound critical but I would have little confidence in your ability to shut up and deal with it.
I do not want to offend you but as far as I am conceerned you have a completly one sided, biased, chilish, offensive, and nearly assanine approach to this entire situation.
You again make statuments such as "Whites are becoming the minority" In a capitalist nation it is about money... and we do, and likley will continue to hold the vast majority of wealth this nation has
You are the racial majority, the econimic racial majority, and you are attacking and insulting people who would complain about race issues.... this group is by in large minorities as they are on the reciving end... you state: people who use the race card should be dead anyways because it is fucking disgustin in THIS day in age...
Racism is undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength... Do not complain about day and age when you have probobly never really suffered from being your race, if you had, you would have realised how wrong you are.
It is completly obvious that this was the case and I do not understand how you can belive that this nation did the best it could have done.
Over 200 transportation buses were destroied by the collapse of a levy that was a meer 1/4th a mile away.
They obviously thought that ease of use was completly more important then the wellfair of it's people... or they decided that people could get out on their own.
How do you get out of a place without transportation, private or public.
You clearly are displaying no understanding of the human mind as well to say that this situation is not of the severity to effect the mental state of the average person... especially when the population is by in large poor and uneducation. Once again, Statisticly based on the region and the sheer likely hood that that economic class was in fact was in large amount minorities...
You can sit here and disagree with me, but if your going to piss moan and bitch about something that is probobly having little effect on you... I am uninterested in your stance on something you have no factual evidence of.
You clearly do not understand that people in the area have nothing, no food, no shelter, no posession, no transportation, missing family and dead family, Constantly crammed into buildings... with no running water. Listen to NPR, listen to the news, turn off fox for a minute.
In the new orleans stadium there is no runnning water, they are over the legal capacity... there is urine, feces, and human waste pooling on the floor, there is no lights or electricty. There is no source of information.
And you honestly belive that You could just shut up and deal with it? I do not know you but I assume that people who had nothing and lost what little they did could deal with this better than a (preportionatly) privileged individual who can afford a car at the age you are (I assume young based on your attitude) I hate to sound critical but I would have little confidence in your ability to shut up and deal with it.
I do not want to offend you but as far as I am conceerned you have a completly one sided, biased, chilish, offensive, and nearly assanine approach to this entire situation.
You again make statuments such as "Whites are becoming the minority" In a capitalist nation it is about money... and we do, and likley will continue to hold the vast majority of wealth this nation has
You are the racial majority, the econimic racial majority, and you are attacking and insulting people who would complain about race issues.... this group is by in large minorities as they are on the reciving end... you state: people who use the race card should be dead anyways because it is fucking disgustin in THIS day in age...
Racism is undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength... Do not complain about day and age when you have probobly never really suffered from being your race, if you had, you would have realised how wrong you are.
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benjamin wrote:The United states government neglected the welfare of its own citizens by choosing to improperly adress the threat of one of the largest huricanes this country has seen in years.
It is completly obvious that this was the case and I do not understand how you can belive that this nation did the best it could have done.
Over 200 transportation buses were destroied by the collapse of a levy that was a meer 1/4th a mile away.
They obviously thought that ease of use was completly more important then the wellfair of it's people... or they decided that people could get out on their own.
How do you get out of a place without transportation, private or public.
You clearly are displaying no understanding of the human mind as well to say that this situation is not of the severity to effect the mental state of the average person... especially when the population is by in large poor and uneducation. Once again, Statisticly based on the region and the sheer likely hood that that economic class was in fact was in large amount minorities...
You can sit here and disagree with me, but if your going to piss moan and bitch about something that is probobly having little effect on you... I am uninterested in your stance on something you have no factual evidence of.
You clearly do not understand that people in the area have nothing, no food, no shelter, no posession, no transportation, missing family and dead family, Constantly crammed into buildings... with no running water. Listen to NPR, listen to the news, turn off fox for a minute.
In the new orleans stadium there is no runnning water, they are over the legal capacity... there is urine, feces, and human waste pooling on the floor, there is no lights or electricty. There is no source of information.
And you honestly belive that You could just shut up and deal with it? I do not know you but I assume that people who had nothing and lost what little they did could deal with this better than a (preportionatly) privileged individual who can afford a car at the age you are (I assume young based on your attitude) I hate to sound critical but I would have little confidence in your ability to shut up and deal with it.
I do not want to offend you but as far as I am conceerned you have a completly one sided, biased, chilish, offensive, and nearly assanine approach to this entire situation.
You again make statuments such as "Whites are becoming the minority" In a capitalist nation it is about money... and we do, and likley will continue to hold the vast majority of wealth this nation has
You are the racial majority, the econimic racial majority, and you are attacking and insulting people who would complain about race issues.... this group is by in large minorities as they are on the reciving end... you state: people who use the race card should be dead anyways because it is fucking disgustin in THIS day in age...
Racism is undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength... Do not complain about day and age when you have probobly never really suffered from being your race, if you had, you would have realised how wrong you are.
it does have an effect on me, high gas prices, and i quite possibly would have been there had my knee not disqualified me from the air force. sadly i cant just shut up and deal with it beacuse its on every fucking channel every fucking minute of every fucking day. it is interrupting my daily life because some emo cunt rag wants to play the race card. not only that you continue to ask me for facts, but you have provided none either, all you have thrown out is your opinion. again, this has nothing to do with race, i think they shoulda let EVERYONE down there kill each other off. fuck em. act like an idiot, let them kill each other so they can rebuild society without the people who dont know how to act. its childish of YOU to say that just because they had no food, power, blah blah blah that gives them the RIGHT to act how they were. WTF? remember in grade school or kindergarten when the lights would go out everyone would start flipping out? that is basically what you are saying is right, that once something goes wrong everyone has the RIGHT to flip out. fuck it, once it starts to rain here (and i mean sprinkling) then i am just going to start fucking looting shit, based on your logic that would be ok because MY PERCEPTION of right and wrong could tell me that once it rains, something is going wrong and i need to loot. and i mean stealin ipods n shit.
on a side note, the ipod nano was just realeased
"Over 200 transportation buses were destroied by the collapse of a levy that was a meer 1/4th a mile away.
They obviously thought that ease of use was completly more important then the wellfair of it's people... or they decided that people could get out on their own. "
you contradict yourself, look there are 200 busses that are trying to get in to help people, oh no well then they get collapsed when TRYING TO GET IN. yeah, no one reacted at all.
"How do you get out of a place without transportation, private or public. "
the better question is HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET IN?
"You clearly are displaying no understanding of the human mind as well to say that this situation is not of the severity to effect the mental state of the average person... especially when the population is by in large poor and uneducation. Once again, Statisticly based on the region and the sheer likely hood that that economic class was in fact was in large amount minorities... "
again giving people excuses, so based on your logic here people that are POOR AND UNEDUCATED have the fucking RIGHT to act this way? 2 words for you FUCK NO.
"You clearly do not understand that people in the area have nothing, no food, no shelter, no posession, no transportation, missing family and dead family, Constantly crammed into buildings... with no running water. Listen to NPR, listen to the news, turn off fox for a minute.
In the new orleans stadium there is no runnning water, they are over the legal capacity... there is urine, feces, and human waste pooling on the floor, there is no lights or electricty. There is no source of information. "
and? what is your point? this is already known, again i covered this, people wanna play the race card but the BLACK GOVERNOR OF THE FUCKING STATE TOLD PEOPLE TO GO THERE. oh, but wait, that is not being covered on the news because it would totally discredit this fucking race card bullshit.
"I do not want to offend you but as far as I am conceerned you have a completly one sided, biased, chilish, offensive, and nearly assanine approach to this entire situation. "
none taken m8, this is bamboo fighting pit, where differences of opinion are to be expected.
"You again make statuments such as "Whites are becoming the minority" In a capitalist nation it is about money... and we do, and likley will continue to hold the vast majority of wealth this nation has "
then why the FUCK do people keep bringing up the fucking race card for everything? because they have NO BETTER excuse as to why they didnt get this job, or didnt get that raise, etc etc etc. how about NO, how about its this YOU SUCK, do better with your life or your job and then you will get the things you want.
"You are the racial majority, the econimic racial majority, and you are attacking and insulting people who would complain about race issues.... this group is by in large minorities as they are on the reciving end... you state: people who use the race card should be dead anyways because it is fucking disgustin in THIS day in age..."
WRONG, white people are a steadily growing MINORITY in this country. Proven by US census data.
"Racism is undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength... Do not complain about day and age when you have probobly never really suffered from being your race, if you had, you would have realised how wrong you are."
i agree, racism is an undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength, so does that give people who are not "white" the RIGHT to be racist towards people of other nationalities and not get called for it? apparently it DOES. I never said i have "suffered" from being my race, but i know its simply NOT my race that gets me where i am today, it is my qualifications and my drive and my MORALS AND ETHICS, plain and simple.
http://www.illwillpress.com/
go there, on the bottom left click "hurricane report", listen and understand it.
it does have an effect on me, high gas prices, and i quite possibly would have been there had my knee not disqualified me from the air force. sadly i cant just shut up and deal with it beacuse its on every fucking channel every fucking minute of every fucking day. it is interrupting my daily life because some emo cunt rag wants to play the race card. not only that you continue to ask me for facts, but you have provided none either, all you have thrown out is your opinion. again, this has nothing to do with race, i think they shoulda let EVERYONE down there kill each other off. fuck em. act like an idiot, let them kill each other so they can rebuild society without the people who dont know how to act. its childish of YOU to say that just because they had no food, power, blah blah blah that gives them the RIGHT to act how they were. WTF? remember in grade school or kindergarten when the lights would go out everyone would start flipping out? that is basically what you are saying is right, that once something goes wrong everyone has the RIGHT to flip out. fuck it, once it starts to rain here (and i mean sprinkling) then i am just going to start fucking looting shit, based on your logic that would be ok because MY PERCEPTION of right and wrong could tell me that once it rains, something is going wrong and i need to loot. and i mean stealin ipods n shit.
on a side note, the ipod nano was just realeased
"Over 200 transportation buses were destroied by the collapse of a levy that was a meer 1/4th a mile away.
They obviously thought that ease of use was completly more important then the wellfair of it's people... or they decided that people could get out on their own. "
you contradict yourself, look there are 200 busses that are trying to get in to help people, oh no well then they get collapsed when TRYING TO GET IN. yeah, no one reacted at all.
---------this statement dose not make sense, I do not understand what you are trying to say here, I contradict myself I guess, and then this all loses meaning... please rephrase this or be more clear.
"How do you get out of a place without transportation, private or public. "
the better question is HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET IN?
----------They lived there, and prior to the storm hitting there was a collapse in the infastructure of the escape plan, leaving many people trappedwithout transportation out.
"You clearly are displaying no understanding of the human mind as well to say that this situation is not of the severity to effect the mental state of the average person... especially when the population is by in large poor and uneducation. Once again, Statisticly based on the region and the sheer likely hood that that economic class was in fact was in large amount minorities... "
again giving people excuses, so based on your logic here people that are POOR AND UNEDUCATED have the fucking RIGHT to act this way? 2 words for you FUCK NO.
I am not saying that it is acceptable they act this way, but it deems understanding that the human mind could reach that point, as result of the stress factors I went on to say.
"You clearly do not understand that people in the area have nothing, no food, no shelter, no posession, no transportation, missing family and dead family, Constantly crammed into buildings... with no running water. Listen to NPR, listen to the news, turn off fox for a minute.
In the new orleans stadium there is no runnning water, they are over the legal capacity... there is urine, feces, and human waste pooling on the floor, there is no lights or electricty. There is no source of information. "
and? what is your point? this is already known, again i covered this, people wanna play the race card but the BLACK GOVERNOR OF THE FUCKING STATE TOLD PEOPLE TO GO THERE. oh, but wait, that is not being covered on the news because it would totally discredit this fucking race card bullshit.
"I do not want to offend you but as far as I am conceerned you have a completly one sided, biased, chilish, offensive, and nearly assanine approach to this entire situation. "
none taken m8, this is bamboo fighting pit, where differences of opinion are to be expected.
"You again make statuments such as "Whites are becoming the minority" In a capitalist nation it is about money... and we do, and likley will continue to hold the vast majority of wealth this nation has "
then why the FUCK do people keep bringing up the fucking race card for everything? because they have NO BETTER excuse as to why they didnt get this job, or didnt get that raise, etc etc etc. how about NO, how about its this YOU SUCK, do better with your life or your job and then you will get the things you want.
-----------Once again I think it is short sighted for you to think that thereis no such thing as racism in our society today. Racism is when my freind steve who is asian and white writes asian on a college application and white on a job application. Racism is when we give merit to minorities in the college process to further their likeley hood to become accepted (a process the vast majority of black do not agree with)
"You are the racial majority, the econimic racial majority, and you are attacking and insulting people who would complain about race issues.... this group is by in large minorities as they are on the reciving end... you state: people who use the race card should be dead anyways because it is fucking disgustin in THIS day in age..."
WRONG, white people are a steadily growing MINORITY in this country. Proven by US census data.
They are going to become the minority, my last checked statistics say that we are currently the majority, and on average a white male dose in fact make more than any other race, econimically we still hold the majority of wealth this country has and will have in the future.
"Racism is undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength... Do not complain about day and age when you have probobly never really suffered from being your race, if you had, you would have realised how wrong you are."
i agree, racism is an undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength, so does that give people who are not "white" the RIGHT to be racist towards people of other nationalities and not get called for it? apparently it DOES. I never said i have "suffered" from being my race, but i know its simply NOT my race that gets me where i am today, it is my qualifications and my drive and my MORALS AND ETHICS, plain and simple.
You belive that if you were black you would have lived the same life you do now? You would never had encountered racism of any type, never had your life impacted negativly based on your race? You simply do not want to accept that racism twoards blacks and minorities is still a serious problem, whilst racism in general is, I feel tenfold that the negative effects of racism twoards blacks is till more damaging than the racism twoards whites.
http://www.illwillpress.com/
go there, on the bottom left click "hurricane report", listen and understand it.
----no offense but this site dose not appear to have much merit. this is something I would seperate into the entertainment section. But if this is where you are getting your news, our conversation is done.
on a side note, the ipod nano was just realeased
"Over 200 transportation buses were destroied by the collapse of a levy that was a meer 1/4th a mile away.
They obviously thought that ease of use was completly more important then the wellfair of it's people... or they decided that people could get out on their own. "
you contradict yourself, look there are 200 busses that are trying to get in to help people, oh no well then they get collapsed when TRYING TO GET IN. yeah, no one reacted at all.
---------this statement dose not make sense, I do not understand what you are trying to say here, I contradict myself I guess, and then this all loses meaning... please rephrase this or be more clear.
"How do you get out of a place without transportation, private or public. "
the better question is HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET IN?
----------They lived there, and prior to the storm hitting there was a collapse in the infastructure of the escape plan, leaving many people trappedwithout transportation out.
"You clearly are displaying no understanding of the human mind as well to say that this situation is not of the severity to effect the mental state of the average person... especially when the population is by in large poor and uneducation. Once again, Statisticly based on the region and the sheer likely hood that that economic class was in fact was in large amount minorities... "
again giving people excuses, so based on your logic here people that are POOR AND UNEDUCATED have the fucking RIGHT to act this way? 2 words for you FUCK NO.
I am not saying that it is acceptable they act this way, but it deems understanding that the human mind could reach that point, as result of the stress factors I went on to say.
"You clearly do not understand that people in the area have nothing, no food, no shelter, no posession, no transportation, missing family and dead family, Constantly crammed into buildings... with no running water. Listen to NPR, listen to the news, turn off fox for a minute.
In the new orleans stadium there is no runnning water, they are over the legal capacity... there is urine, feces, and human waste pooling on the floor, there is no lights or electricty. There is no source of information. "
and? what is your point? this is already known, again i covered this, people wanna play the race card but the BLACK GOVERNOR OF THE FUCKING STATE TOLD PEOPLE TO GO THERE. oh, but wait, that is not being covered on the news because it would totally discredit this fucking race card bullshit.
"I do not want to offend you but as far as I am conceerned you have a completly one sided, biased, chilish, offensive, and nearly assanine approach to this entire situation. "
none taken m8, this is bamboo fighting pit, where differences of opinion are to be expected.
"You again make statuments such as "Whites are becoming the minority" In a capitalist nation it is about money... and we do, and likley will continue to hold the vast majority of wealth this nation has "
then why the FUCK do people keep bringing up the fucking race card for everything? because they have NO BETTER excuse as to why they didnt get this job, or didnt get that raise, etc etc etc. how about NO, how about its this YOU SUCK, do better with your life or your job and then you will get the things you want.
-----------Once again I think it is short sighted for you to think that thereis no such thing as racism in our society today. Racism is when my freind steve who is asian and white writes asian on a college application and white on a job application. Racism is when we give merit to minorities in the college process to further their likeley hood to become accepted (a process the vast majority of black do not agree with)
"You are the racial majority, the econimic racial majority, and you are attacking and insulting people who would complain about race issues.... this group is by in large minorities as they are on the reciving end... you state: people who use the race card should be dead anyways because it is fucking disgustin in THIS day in age..."
WRONG, white people are a steadily growing MINORITY in this country. Proven by US census data.
They are going to become the minority, my last checked statistics say that we are currently the majority, and on average a white male dose in fact make more than any other race, econimically we still hold the majority of wealth this country has and will have in the future.
last updated august 2005, this month, this is the cia world fact books census data showing we currently make up 81.7% of this countrys population in comparison to the black population of 12.9% You can add up all the minorities and we still have the majority.white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)
"Racism is undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength... Do not complain about day and age when you have probobly never really suffered from being your race, if you had, you would have realised how wrong you are."
i agree, racism is an undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength, so does that give people who are not "white" the RIGHT to be racist towards people of other nationalities and not get called for it? apparently it DOES. I never said i have "suffered" from being my race, but i know its simply NOT my race that gets me where i am today, it is my qualifications and my drive and my MORALS AND ETHICS, plain and simple.
You belive that if you were black you would have lived the same life you do now? You would never had encountered racism of any type, never had your life impacted negativly based on your race? You simply do not want to accept that racism twoards blacks and minorities is still a serious problem, whilst racism in general is, I feel tenfold that the negative effects of racism twoards blacks is till more damaging than the racism twoards whites.
http://www.illwillpress.com/
go there, on the bottom left click "hurricane report", listen and understand it.
----no offense but this site dose not appear to have much merit. this is something I would seperate into the entertainment section. But if this is where you are getting your news, our conversation is done.
benjamin wrote:it does have an effect on me, high gas prices, and i quite possibly would have been there had my knee not disqualified me from the air force. sadly i cant just shut up and deal with it beacuse its on every fucking channel every fucking minute of every fucking day. it is interrupting my daily life because some emo cunt rag wants to play the race card. not only that you continue to ask me for facts, but you have provided none either, all you have thrown out is your opinion. again, this has nothing to do with race, i think they shoulda let EVERYONE down there kill each other off. fuck em. act like an idiot, let them kill each other so they can rebuild society without the people who dont know how to act. its childish of YOU to say that just because they had no food, power, blah blah blah that gives them the RIGHT to act how they were. WTF? remember in grade school or kindergarten when the lights would go out everyone would start flipping out? that is basically what you are saying is right, that once something goes wrong everyone has the RIGHT to flip out. fuck it, once it starts to rain here (and i mean sprinkling) then i am just going to start fucking looting shit, based on your logic that would be ok because MY PERCEPTION of right and wrong could tell me that once it rains, something is going wrong and i need to loot. and i mean stealin ipods n shit.
on a side note, the ipod nano was just realeased
"Over 200 transportation buses were destroied by the collapse of a levy that was a meer 1/4th a mile away.
They obviously thought that ease of use was completly more important then the wellfair of it's people... or they decided that people could get out on their own. "
you contradict yourself, look there are 200 busses that are trying to get in to help people, oh no well then they get collapsed when TRYING TO GET IN. yeah, no one reacted at all.
---------this statement dose not make sense, I do not understand what you are trying to say here, I contradict myself I guess, and then this all loses meaning... please rephrase this or be more clear.
"How do you get out of a place without transportation, private or public. "
the better question is HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET IN?
----------They lived there, and prior to the storm hitting there was a collapse in the infastructure of the escape plan, leaving many people trappedwithout transportation out.
"You clearly are displaying no understanding of the human mind as well to say that this situation is not of the severity to effect the mental state of the average person... especially when the population is by in large poor and uneducation. Once again, Statisticly based on the region and the sheer likely hood that that economic class was in fact was in large amount minorities... "
again giving people excuses, so based on your logic here people that are POOR AND UNEDUCATED have the fucking RIGHT to act this way? 2 words for you FUCK NO.
I am not saying that it is acceptable they act this way, but it deems understanding that the human mind could reach that point, as result of the stress factors I went on to say.
"You clearly do not understand that people in the area have nothing, no food, no shelter, no posession, no transportation, missing family and dead family, Constantly crammed into buildings... with no running water. Listen to NPR, listen to the news, turn off fox for a minute.
In the new orleans stadium there is no runnning water, they are over the legal capacity... there is urine, feces, and human waste pooling on the floor, there is no lights or electricty. There is no source of information. "
and? what is your point? this is already known, again i covered this, people wanna play the race card but the BLACK GOVERNOR OF THE FUCKING STATE TOLD PEOPLE TO GO THERE. oh, but wait, that is not being covered on the news because it would totally discredit this fucking race card bullshit.
"I do not want to offend you but as far as I am conceerned you have a completly one sided, biased, chilish, offensive, and nearly assanine approach to this entire situation. "
none taken m8, this is bamboo fighting pit, where differences of opinion are to be expected.
"You again make statuments such as "Whites are becoming the minority" In a capitalist nation it is about money... and we do, and likley will continue to hold the vast majority of wealth this nation has "
then why the FUCK do people keep bringing up the fucking race card for everything? because they have NO BETTER excuse as to why they didnt get this job, or didnt get that raise, etc etc etc. how about NO, how about its this YOU SUCK, do better with your life or your job and then you will get the things you want.
-----------Once again I think it is short sighted for you to think that thereis no such thing as racism in our society today. Racism is when my freind steve who is asian and white writes asian on a college application and white on a job application. Racism is when we give merit to minorities in the college process to further their likeley hood to become accepted (a process the vast majority of black do not agree with)
"You are the racial majority, the econimic racial majority, and you are attacking and insulting people who would complain about race issues.... this group is by in large minorities as they are on the reciving end... you state: people who use the race card should be dead anyways because it is fucking disgustin in THIS day in age..."
WRONG, white people are a steadily growing MINORITY in this country. Proven by US census data.
They are going to become the minority, my last checked statistics say that we are currently the majority, and on average a white male dose in fact make more than any other race, econimically we still hold the majority of wealth this country has and will have in the future.
last updated august 2005, this month, this is the cia world fact books census data showing we currently make up 81.7% of this countrys population in comparison to the black population of 12.9% You can add up all the minorities and we still have the majority.white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)
"Racism is undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength... Do not complain about day and age when you have probobly never really suffered from being your race, if you had, you would have realised how wrong you are."
i agree, racism is an undying, unchanging in its hatred, and unwaivering in its strength, so does that give people who are not "white" the RIGHT to be racist towards people of other nationalities and not get called for it? apparently it DOES. I never said i have "suffered" from being my race, but i know its simply NOT my race that gets me where i am today, it is my qualifications and my drive and my MORALS AND ETHICS, plain and simple.
You belive that if you were black you would have lived the same life you do now? You would never had encountered racism of any type, never had your life impacted negativly based on your race? You simply do not want to accept that racism twoards blacks and minorities is still a serious problem, whilst racism in general is, I feel tenfold that the negative effects of racism twoards blacks is till more damaging than the racism twoards whites.
http://www.illwillpress.com/
go there, on the bottom left click "hurricane report", listen and understand it.
----no offense but this site dose not appear to have much merit. this is something I would seperate into the entertainment section. But if this is where you are getting your news, our conversation is done.
LOL foamy is not where i am getting my news, he is voicing an opinion, an opinion that needs to be heard by all these fucks that think that nothing was done, or it was done too slowly blah blah blah. i have never said that racism does not exist, i said that it does not apply in this case and people playing the racial card are spineless fucking douche bags. you have not addressed my point where it is "socially" acceptable for people of non-white decent to be "racist" by definition but its not acceptable for white people to be? racism is totally asinine no matter where its coming from, so why do people deem it acceptable for non-white people to be racist?
I agree that racism on all sides is wrong, but I feel that more often racism twoards whites is still being driven as a reaction twoards racism begat unto minorities.
we probobly just will not agree on such a statement.
But that is what I feel to be true.
I also feel that the current administration ignored the largest huricane (5.5 at its highest level) that has ever hit the gulf coast. They did some, but failed overall to properly adress the situation
I also know that violence and looting are socially and morally unacceptable things, but I feel I can understand the mindset of a looter who is being driven to a near animal like state as a result of the neglect he or she suffered from the administrations failure to adress the hurricane prior to its landing on the gulf coast.
No I am not arguing that racism, looting, or things of such matter are acceptable. I just feel the way you stated the situation was biased... in the sense that you have the right feelings twoards the occurance, but not so much for the causes of such situation.
we probobly just will not agree on such a statement.
But that is what I feel to be true.
I also feel that the current administration ignored the largest huricane (5.5 at its highest level) that has ever hit the gulf coast. They did some, but failed overall to properly adress the situation
I also know that violence and looting are socially and morally unacceptable things, but I feel I can understand the mindset of a looter who is being driven to a near animal like state as a result of the neglect he or she suffered from the administrations failure to adress the hurricane prior to its landing on the gulf coast.
No I am not arguing that racism, looting, or things of such matter are acceptable. I just feel the way you stated the situation was biased... in the sense that you have the right feelings twoards the occurance, but not so much for the causes of such situation.
benjamin wrote:I agree that racism on all sides is wrong, but I feel that more often racism twoards whites is still being driven as a reaction twoards racism begat unto minorities.
we probobly just will not agree on such a statement.
But that is what I feel to be true.
I also feel that the current administration ignored the largest huricane (5.5 at its highest level) that has ever hit the gulf coast. They did some, but failed overall to properly adress the situation
I also know that violence and looting are socially and morally unacceptable things, but I feel I can understand the mindset of a looter who is being driven to a near animal like state as a result of the neglect he or she suffered from the administrations failure to adress the hurricane prior to its landing on the gulf coast.
No I am not arguing that racism, looting, or things of such matter are acceptable. I just feel the way you stated the situation was biased... in the sense that you have the right feelings twoards the occurance, but not so much for the causes of such situation.
animals dont need guns, tvs, computers, etc
