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EK navigation. *edit*

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EK navigation. *edit*

Post by .saint » November 10, 2005

i got my ek navigation today!

i went and took everything to the car today for installation :) and i have to say if you plan on buying navigation make sure it comes with all the wiring and harness's or you will NEVER have it working. mine came with everything and i still didnt get it installed. im going to have to rip the dash out to figure out alot of the wiring. there is like 5 seperate harness's on the back of the navigation unit to begin with. plus it was made for a 96-98 and mines a 99-00 so alot of the plugs are different. for instance the radio harness changed from 99-00 so i need to cut and splice everything to the navigation harness. also in 96-98 the climate controls were on a slide mech. and the navigation is all digital/knob so the 99-00 harness comes in handy here...

also since the navigation was for the 96-98 the vents had to be cut back to make room for the center vents. the metal bracket holding the 99-00 climate controls up inside the dash... you guessed it that had to be cut and removed as well.

all in all this is going to be a fucking BITCH to put in and its going to have to wait till the summer. all the wiring and installation will be documented and pics will be taken for an in dept how-to this spring.


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alright so this question has been asked about a thousand times... i got the ek4 navigation... yippie. its complete with EVERYTHING. all wires, harness's, media box(brain), climate controls, tape deck, navigation cd, and cupholder. (could be worthy for the rare parts thread)

this will be going into a 99 hatch btw.

hopefully jon will be able to help me out here.
ok so i know the radio harness in the 99-00 is different from the 96-98 and that gets plugged into the tape deck. so im going to have to cut and splice or pick up the 96-98 harness... the vents and the metal behind the old climate controls are already cut apart and removed due to my old EK9 climate controls (thats what im replacing this with)

now i tried to hook the climate control wires up and only one plug fits. since the 96-98 was all on slide mech's and the 99-00 was all knob controls the wiring harness's are a lil different. the rear defrost is on a seperate plug on the navi and on the 99-00 its built into the actual system so there is no extra wires...

would i be better off picking up a 96-98 wire harness and try pieceing them together to get this thing working? jon how did u manage to get everything working correctly? online manual anywhere? feedback please. AIM: tsunami1asia0

pics of what im working with: Image Image Image Image and my car its going into: Image Image UPDATE! 11-12-05
alright so i was pissing aorund with the wiring again and i think i have a nice lead to what goes where. there is a few wires i have no idea about and a few i think i know but im not going to say for sure.

start by taking a look at the back of the navigation unit and the back of the media box. both of these plugs had the same color wires and they were interchangable to i figure they were a match: Image one down!

here is a shot of the back of the tape deck. you can see the stereo harness plugs right into the center of the unit. on the right is the white harness that goes to the media box, and on the left is the unknown plug i think plugs into the navi unit: Image ok looking at the other plugs on the back of the navigation i have came up with these conclusions: Image the black small plug i have marked (???) has 7 wires comming form it:
black, red/black, green/black, yellow/red, blue/white, white/blue(x2)

after taking a look at the one i have marked (unknown on tape deck) i notice that the harness on the tape deck holds the same wire theme. so im pretty sure im going to make a jump harness to run those 2 together.

the RGB wire im not 100% sure but im pretty positive thats what its for.
the heater controls and remote controls is 100% positive because it was all hooked in when recieving the unit.

moving on to the media box and harness...
this was obviously mounted somewhere near the rear of the car. the harness connected to this box is about 10 feet long. in the picture you will see i have the 2 plugs already marked: Image now taking a look at the 10foot long harness comming form the media box it has a bunch of connectors attached to it making the harness longer.. there is 3 plugs on this cable and all 3 are the same.. one to the media box, one to the tape deck and the other one? little help here guys. haha im thinking navigation unit? but i cant find a plug with matching wires. also the 2 harness's are close together... i had a thought it was maybe for cd changer? but those are usually trunk mounted and there is not enough cable to make that run. but maybe im wrong? Image
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Post by ef8 mcm » November 10, 2005

good luck man. its going to be worth it. if you dont want do deal with it you can sell it to me. ive got a 98 hatch also.
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Post by Mugen Ferio » November 11, 2005

haha nah sell it to me. jk i dont want it. working on motor mods now
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Post by .saint » November 11, 2005

:bump: since i edited the post

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Post by Sean @ NDF » November 12, 2005

wow, no idea man. I would keep searching for a pdf or something, or get in contact with people that have done the install before. good luck!

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Post by munster » November 12, 2005

I think we could pull your defroster wire from the harness and splice that separate to the button.

To convert your car to 96-98 you need a whole new box. I think we can figure out the wires.
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Post by 98BomexCiv » November 12, 2005

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Post by .saint » November 12, 2005

well most of the honda's run a wire harness from there parts to other parts so i dont think they directly routed the wires into the box. so im thinking i can unclip some wires at burnsworth and work from there. ill get it dont u worry :P

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Post by munster » November 12, 2005

.saint wrote:well most of the honda's run a wire harness from there parts to other parts so i dont think they directly routed the wires into the box. so im thinking i can unclip some wires at burnsworth and work from there. ill get it dont u worry :P
If you could get the 96-98 plugs we can make a jumper harness.

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Post by .saint » November 12, 2005

well i started farting with a bunch of the wires today after work. i found out a few more thigns and i took ALOT of pics. hopefully i can document all this to get it working. if i can figure out this 1 damn plug is fore i think i might have figured all this out :)

its a black plug on the back of the navigation. i already opened up 2 wire connectors and made my own jumper harness. shits actually comming together OK. im just going to have to find a way to do the rear defrost thing :)

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